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== Vorschlag ==
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Wir kaufen uns einen Inkjet PCB Printer :) Kostenpunkt etwa 2000$, 50% zahlen Member 50% zahlt das Lab. Damit er sicher ist steht der Drucker im 3D Scanner Raum. Nach Einschulung kann gegen Unkostenbeitrag (50 Cent pro Europlatine obwohl auch andere Größen möglich sind :)
 
  
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Der Drucker druckt mit Silber (eigentlich mit 2 Chemikalien die dann reagieren und das Silber faellt aus). Angeblich bekommt man Wderstandswerte die mit normalen in Kupfer geaätzten PCBs vergleichbar sind.
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== PCBPrinter ==
  
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* http://www.cartesianco.com/product/the-argentum/
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The metalab has a PCB printer!
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* [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cartesianco/the-ex1-rapid-3d-printing-of-circuit-boards Kickstarter Page (abgelaufen)]
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* [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cartesianco/the-ex1-rapid-3d-printing-of-circuit-boards/posts mehr Videos davon]
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* First contact: 2014-09-02
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* State: Waiting for Someone(tm) to assemble it
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=== FAQ ===
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'''What does it do?''' It is a printer based on bubble jet technology, but it can emit silver traces that are conductive. It's designed for printing electronic boards, especially for surface mounted devices (SMD).
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'''What can it print on?''' Not quite sure yet. It has to have a rough surface, but sanding works, according to the developers. Even fabrics work, although you can't solder on them afterwards (needs conductive glue).
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'''What's the resolution?''' The developers claim that everything down to TSSOP works fine (that's 0.65mm pitch).
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'''Can I print something?''' Yes, but first we have to assemble it, test it and then get a price chart up. The silver is quite expensive.
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'''Who owns the printer?''' Right now, [[Benutzer:anlumo|anlumo]] is the owner, but the Metalab is supposed to buy it from him Soon(tm).
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=== Links ===
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* [http://www.cartesianco.com/products/argentum "Official Webstore"]
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* [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cartesianco/the-ex1-rapid-3d-printing-of-circuit-boards Kickstarter Page (campaign is over!)]
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* [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cartesianco/the-ex1-rapid-3d-printing-of-circuit-boards/posts more videos]
 
   
 
   
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== Zusatzinfo ==
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Store for the consumables: [http://www.cartesianco.com/product-category/cartridges/]
  
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[[Benutzer:anlumo|anlumo]] ist Backer von diesem Drucker (early bird special tier um $1199, bekommt ihn also als einer der ersten). Er würde sich bereit erklären, ihn im Lab aufzustellen, würde sich aber dann über finanzielle Beteiligung freuen.
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== Patrons ==
  
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: Vom anfänglichen Vorschlag hin zum Angebot mit dem Early Bird-Gerät durch Kickstarter-Unterstützer Anlumo gabs eine Entwicklung. Bitte '''vorher''' klarstellen wie das nun ablaufen soll. Aus Gründen. Es gibt ja mehrere Varianten wie eine gemeinschaftliche Anschaffung vor sich gehen kann. Wurde im Metalab mal so, mal so gehandhabt. Wird das Gerät (gänzlich) im Eigentum des Metalab stehen und eine auf sie ausgestellte Rechnung bekommen und sich die EinfuhrumsatzUMehrwertsteuer zurückholen können?  Sind die Beträge als zweckgewidmete Spenden zu sehen oder wird man mit dem Betrag anteiliger Mitbesitzer? - Wer stellt initial das Verbrauchsmaterial, wie soll die Abrechnung erfolgen? --[[Benutzer:Pk|Pk]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Pk|Diskussion]]) 06:06, 16. Jun. 2014 (CEST)
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Some fine folks volunteered to help the Metalab pay for the printer by donating some money.
  
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== Wer ist dabei? ==
 
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Liste an Menschen die sich um das Gerät kuemmern wollen und wenn sie im Lab sind als Ansprechpartner fuer Menschen die PCBs drucken wollen da sind.
 
 
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!! width=100| Member !!width=80| Moneyz[€] !!width=250| I haz moneyz
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!! width=100| Member !!width=80| Moneyz[€] !!width=250| Paid?
 
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| [[user:wizard23|wizard23]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
 
| [[user:wizard23|wizard23]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
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| [[user:naxx|naxx]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||
 
 
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| [[user:overflo|overflo]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
 
| [[user:overflo|overflo]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
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| [[user:clifford|clifford]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
 
| [[user:clifford|clifford]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
 
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| [[user:uniq|uniq]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
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| [[user:uniq|uniq]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 || {{Yes}} (20.6.2014)
 
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| [[user:metachris|metachris]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
 
| [[user:metachris|metachris]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
 
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| [[user:metaz|metaz]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||  
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| [[user:metaz|metaz]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 || {{Yes}} (Juli 2014)
 
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| [[user:datacop|datacop]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
 
| [[user:datacop|datacop]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
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| [[user:prikle|prikle]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50  || {{Yes}} (~15.06.2014)
 
| [[user:prikle|prikle]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50  || {{Yes}} (~15.06.2014)
 
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| [[Benutzer:reox|reox]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||  
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| [[Benutzer:reox|reox]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 || {{Yes}} (08.09.2014)
 
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| [[Benutzer:amir|amir]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||
 
| [[Benutzer:amir|amir]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||
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| [[Benutzer:anlumo|anlumo]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 100 ||
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| [[Benutzer:naxx|naxx]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 || {{Yes}} (25.08.2015 an anlumo)
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| [[Benutzer:mind|mind]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 50 ||
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| [[Benutzer:zwax|zwax]] ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 25 || {{Yes}} (09.08.2015)
 
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| [[Benutzer:you|you]]? ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| ?? ||
 
| [[Benutzer:you|you]]? ||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| ?? ||
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|'''Summe'''||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 750 ||
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|'''Summe'''||align=right style="padding-right:20px;"| 900 ||
 
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The printer did originally cost €884.10 + import tax/customs €343.36.
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== Printing Costs ==
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[[Benutzer:anlumo|anlumo]] also ordered some cartridges along with the printer to save some shipping costs. We currently have:
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* 8x Silver Nitrate
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* 3x Ascorbic
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* 4x Ascborbic+
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* 2x Black
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This should be enough for about 125000cm^2 of printing area. The costs were about €300.
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Open question: What should the printing price be? Ideally the software could tell you the exact amount of chemicals that were used for printing, but this is pending investigation.

Aktuelle Version vom 30. September 2015, 12:01 Uhr

Language: English

PCBPrinter

The metalab has a PCB printer!

  • First contact: 2014-09-02
  • State: Waiting for Someone(tm) to assemble it

FAQ

What does it do? It is a printer based on bubble jet technology, but it can emit silver traces that are conductive. It's designed for printing electronic boards, especially for surface mounted devices (SMD).

What can it print on? Not quite sure yet. It has to have a rough surface, but sanding works, according to the developers. Even fabrics work, although you can't solder on them afterwards (needs conductive glue).

What's the resolution? The developers claim that everything down to TSSOP works fine (that's 0.65mm pitch).

Can I print something? Yes, but first we have to assemble it, test it and then get a price chart up. The silver is quite expensive.

Who owns the printer? Right now, anlumo is the owner, but the Metalab is supposed to buy it from him Soon(tm).

Links

Store for the consumables: [1]

Patrons

Some fine folks volunteered to help the Metalab pay for the printer by donating some money.

Member Moneyz[€] Paid?
wizard23 100
overflo 100
clifford 100
uniq 50 ✔ (20.6.2014)
metachris 50
metaz 100 ✔ (Juli 2014)
datacop 50
prikle 50 ✔ (~15.06.2014)
reox 50 ✔ (08.09.2014)
amir 50
anlumo 100
naxx 50 ✔ (25.08.2015 an anlumo)
mind 50
zwax 25 ✔ (09.08.2015)
you? ??
Summe 900

The printer did originally cost €884.10 + import tax/customs €343.36.

Printing Costs

anlumo also ordered some cartridges along with the printer to save some shipping costs. We currently have:

  • 8x Silver Nitrate
  • 3x Ascorbic
  • 4x Ascborbic+
  • 2x Black

This should be enough for about 125000cm^2 of printing area. The costs were about €300.

Open question: What should the printing price be? Ideally the software could tell you the exact amount of chemicals that were used for printing, but this is pending investigation.

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