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Costs:
 
Costs:
  
We already have most of the equiment and material necessary, so only minor supplements are needed.
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We already have most of the equiment and material necessary, so only minor supplements are needed (Putz, Tiefengund, Spachtelmasse, misc. tools)
 
 
* Putz, Tiefengund and Spachtelmasse: FIXME
 
* Misc. tools: FIXME
 
  
 
=== Floor ===
 
=== Floor ===
  
If anyone have experience or knowledge of floor coating, please get in touch with [[User:MariusKintel]].
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Bericht Bodenberatung durch Herrn Aschenbrenner / [http://www.industriefussboden.at/ Fa. AIB GmbH] von Mo.
  
Cost estimate for an epoxy-based solution:
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: für Epoxid zu viele Unebenheiten, vor allem haben die Holzplatten zu viel Spiel (und hier sind nicht vereinzelte Problemstellen gemeint): '''nicht ordentlich machbar''' (nein, Armierung mit vertretbaren Mengen Glasfaser hilft nicht)
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: Alternative: '''Anstrich''' -> DIY
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: * Leihgebühr Bodenschleifmaschine Servo: EUR 22,-/Tag (exkl. MWSt)
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: * Schleifpapier EUR 18,-/Stk. (exkl. MWSt), doppelseitig nutzbar (1 Stück sei ausreichend)
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: * 1. Anstrich: [http://www.industriefussboden.at/website/astrochem/mat_undercoat.htm ''astrochem'' Grundierung/Imprägnierung] fuer 10 kg ~40m² ... EUR 139,- (exkl. MWSt) [Erstanstrich braucht mehr Material]
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: * 2. + 3. Anstrich: [http://www.industriefussboden.at/website/astrochem/mat_sealing_uv.htm ''astrochem'' Versiegelung UV] (Farbe) 10kg fuer 2x 40m² ... EUR 179,- (exkl. MWSt)
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: : Kosten ueber den Daumen EUR 15,-/m² (beinhaltet zumindest 1. und 2. Anstrich)<br>: Kosten Anstrich: (139 + 179) * 1.2 = 381.60 EUR<br>: Kosten gesamt: (22 + 18 + 139 + 179) * 1.2 = '''429.60 EUR'''
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Fa. Astrochem: Tel: <code>02235/ 875 55</code> (29.3.2007) ''"Lieferzeit braucht jetzt sicher einen Monat."'' -- "Warum!? Hr. Aschenbrenner hat - um auf der sicheren Seite zu sein - von 14 Tagen gesprochen. Im Astrochem Datenblatt steht "Bei allen anderen Farben ist mit einer Lieferzeit von ca. 10 Tagen zu rechnen." -- Tja, es kam erst eine groessere Lieferung aus .fr (?) und bei so einer Kleinmenge muessten wir dann die Mehrkosten durch den Versand uebernehmen. Gibt Bescheid was das kostet. Noch nicht bestellt. (Unser -mit Abstand- [[Diskussion:HappyLab:History|zweitgereihter Farbton]] RAL 6021/Blassgruen wär' uebrigens lagernd.) --[[Benutzer:Pk|PK]] 15:58, 29. Mär. 2007 (CEST)
  
* Epoxyharz: ca. 50kg @ EUR 9 -> EUR 450
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: Trockenzeit abhängig von der Raumtemp., mit 2 Tagen pro Anstrich rechnen, Grund und Versiegelung beinhalten Lösungsmittel, Tür zum Hauptraum gut abdichten und hofseitig begehen, bis zur Wand streichen/rollen, PVC Sesselleise erst nachher
* Epoxyhärter: ca. 25kg @ EUR 13.6 -> EUR 340
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: 4 verschiedene Farben lagernd ([[User:Philip|Philip]]: ''"wenig sexy"''), Lieferzeit anderer Farben (zB. Weiss) max. 14 Tage. eventuell bissl Flitte^W Feenstaub einstreuen
* Glasfasermatte 300 gr/sqm: 40sqm @ EUR 2.80 -> EUR 112
 
* Misc. equiment: ca. EUR 50
 
  
Two color solutions (separately colored floor with see-through epoxy or single-colored epoxy):
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Misc costs: Parkett Fugendicht, Montageschaum, ca. 50 euro
 
 
* Kunstharzlack: 42 sqm @ ca. EUR 3.5/sqm -> EUR 147
 
* Colored epoxy: 5-10% color-to-epoxy @ 20-40 EUR/kg -> EUR 50-200
 
 
 
<b>Sum: Between EUR 1000 and EUR 1150.</b>
 
  
 
=== Electricity ===
 
=== Electricity ===
  
Ideally, we should subdivide the lab into at least 3 indepentant
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The WEL will be subdivided into 2 independent circuits wired from the fuse cabinet in the corner, one will serve power for the heavy machinery lab, and one for the remaining power and lights.
circuits. The main reason for this is that short circuits are more
 
likely to happen in an electronics lab than anywhere else. In
 
addition, the future machine room will draw a lot of power, so it
 
should have a dedicated circuit.
 
  
We might be able to reuse some cable canals inside the walls. If not,
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All wiring will be done "aufputz", since the quality of the wiring inside the walls are questionable.
we'll wire the circuits externally.
 
  
A generous amount of outlets has to be provided for the work places
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Lighting should be neutral and bright and without too much flickering (e.g. neon with EVG).
due to the amount of electronic apparatus being used.
 
 
 
Lighting should be neutral and bright.
 
  
 
== Phase 1 Tasks ==
 
== Phase 1 Tasks ==
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  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Repair holes & cracks with Putz and Spachtelmasse
 
  |Repair holes & cracks with Putz and Spachtelmasse
  | 90%
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  | 100%
 
  |
 
  |
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Scrape off loose paint & prepare surface with Tiefengrund
 
  |Scrape off loose paint & prepare surface with Tiefengrund
  | 85%
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  | 100%
 
  |
 
  |
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Paint all walls and ceiling
 
  |Paint all walls and ceiling
  | 50%
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  | 100%
  |
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  |  
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Final touch
 
  |Final touch
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| 100%
 
  |  
 
  |  
|
 
 
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  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Make a decision on the floor coating
 
  |Make a decision on the floor coating
  |50%
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  |100%
  |Epoxy solution appears to be doable. Anyone with opinions, please speak up.
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  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Build the missing piece just after the doorstep
 
  |Build the missing piece just after the doorstep
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  |-
 
  |-
  |Fill all cracks
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|Strengthen weak spots in the floor
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| 100%
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|-
 +
  |Fill all cracks and edges
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| 100%
 
  |  
 
  |  
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  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Sand down the floor to make it even
 
  |Sand down the floor to make it even
  |  
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  |100%
  |
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  |Hopefully it's even enough now..
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Apply coating
 
  |Apply coating
  |  
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  | 100%
 
  |
 
  |
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Final touch
 
  |Final touch
  |  
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  | 100%
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  | Ready to rumble!
 
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  |Evaluate the state of the current wiring
 
  |Evaluate the state of the current wiring
  |  
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  |100%
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  |Existing in-wall wires should be cut off and forgotten about
 
  |-
 
  |-
  |Decide on techincal solution wrt. circuits, fuses, earth leakage breaker etc.
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  |Decide on technical solution wrt. circuits, fuses, earth leakage breaker etc.
  |  
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  |100%
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  |We have 3 x 16A + a FI dedicated to the WEL already in place
 
  |-
 
  |-
  |Decide on lighting solution
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  |Decide on light & power solution
  |  
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  |100%
 
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  |
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Aquire the necessary equipment (lamps, cables, channels, outlets, switches etc.)
 
  |Aquire the necessary equipment (lamps, cables, channels, outlets, switches etc.)
  |  
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  |100%
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  |([http://www.orion.co.at/de/docs/stores/at/w1070.htm source for library/WEL lamps])
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Build
 
  |Build
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  |100%
 
  |
 
  |
 
  |-
 
  |-
 
  |Final touch
 
  |Final touch
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  | 100%
 
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= Plans & Ideas for Further Phases =
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= Further Phases =
 
 
FIXME
 
 
 
 
 
  
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* Make heavy machinery lab closable to limit dust -> done (new room)
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* More outlets in the remaining corners of the lab -> partially done
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* Permanent network cabling -> done
 +
* More (and orderly) shelving
 +
* Fixed and labeled positions for oszis, soldering stations, etc
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* Stairs to the big window (since Hvy Mchnry exit will be unusable for a while)
  
  
  
 
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Aktuelle Version vom 23. Mai 2011, 12:35 Uhr

Umbau

Due to economic constraints, we're aiming to perform the renovation in multiple phases. After a long time of inactivity, Phase 1 was officially kicked off 25. January 2007.

It was agreed at the 2007-01-25_Jour_Fixe on a EUR 1000-1200 budget for phase one of the renovation.

Overview

  • Phase 1: Do what is necessary to provide a room where a working lab can be set up
  • Phase 2->: More specialized furniture, machine workshop, decoration & theming

Phase 1

  • Repair and paint walls and ceiling
  • Lay floor
  • Wire electricity and mount ceiling lamps

Phase 1 Solution & Budget

Walls & Ceiling

The plan is very basic: Fill holes and cracks, scrape off areas of weak paint, paint all walls and the ceiling white.

Costs:

We already have most of the equiment and material necessary, so only minor supplements are needed (Putz, Tiefengund, Spachtelmasse, misc. tools)

Floor

Bericht Bodenberatung durch Herrn Aschenbrenner / Fa. AIB GmbH von Mo.

für Epoxid zu viele Unebenheiten, vor allem haben die Holzplatten zu viel Spiel (und hier sind nicht vereinzelte Problemstellen gemeint): nicht ordentlich machbar (nein, Armierung mit vertretbaren Mengen Glasfaser hilft nicht)
Alternative: Anstrich -> DIY
* Leihgebühr Bodenschleifmaschine Servo: EUR 22,-/Tag (exkl. MWSt)
* Schleifpapier EUR 18,-/Stk. (exkl. MWSt), doppelseitig nutzbar (1 Stück sei ausreichend)
* 1. Anstrich: astrochem Grundierung/Imprägnierung fuer 10 kg ~40m² ... EUR 139,- (exkl. MWSt) [Erstanstrich braucht mehr Material]
* 2. + 3. Anstrich: astrochem Versiegelung UV (Farbe) 10kg fuer 2x 40m² ... EUR 179,- (exkl. MWSt)
: Kosten ueber den Daumen EUR 15,-/m² (beinhaltet zumindest 1. und 2. Anstrich)
: Kosten Anstrich: (139 + 179) * 1.2 = 381.60 EUR
: Kosten gesamt: (22 + 18 + 139 + 179) * 1.2 = 429.60 EUR

Fa. Astrochem: Tel: 02235/ 875 55 (29.3.2007) "Lieferzeit braucht jetzt sicher einen Monat." -- "Warum!? Hr. Aschenbrenner hat - um auf der sicheren Seite zu sein - von 14 Tagen gesprochen. Im Astrochem Datenblatt steht "Bei allen anderen Farben ist mit einer Lieferzeit von ca. 10 Tagen zu rechnen." -- Tja, es kam erst eine groessere Lieferung aus .fr (?) und bei so einer Kleinmenge muessten wir dann die Mehrkosten durch den Versand uebernehmen. Gibt Bescheid was das kostet. Noch nicht bestellt. (Unser -mit Abstand- zweitgereihter Farbton RAL 6021/Blassgruen wär' uebrigens lagernd.) --PK 15:58, 29. Mär. 2007 (CEST)

Trockenzeit abhängig von der Raumtemp., mit 2 Tagen pro Anstrich rechnen, Grund und Versiegelung beinhalten Lösungsmittel, Tür zum Hauptraum gut abdichten und hofseitig begehen, bis zur Wand streichen/rollen, PVC Sesselleise erst nachher
4 verschiedene Farben lagernd (Philip: "wenig sexy"), Lieferzeit anderer Farben (zB. Weiss) max. 14 Tage. eventuell bissl Flitte^W Feenstaub einstreuen

Misc costs: Parkett Fugendicht, Montageschaum, ca. 50 euro

Electricity

The WEL will be subdivided into 2 independent circuits wired from the fuse cabinet in the corner, one will serve power for the heavy machinery lab, and one for the remaining power and lights.

All wiring will be done "aufputz", since the quality of the wiring inside the walls are questionable.

Lighting should be neutral and bright and without too much flickering (e.g. neon with EVG).

Phase 1 Tasks

Detailed task breakdown for the above solution

Walls & Ceiling

Task Progress Comments
Repair holes & cracks with Putz and Spachtelmasse 100%
Scrape off loose paint & prepare surface with Tiefengrund 100%
Paint all walls and ceiling 100%
Final touch 100%

Floor

Task Progress Comments
Make a decision on the floor coating 100%
Build the missing piece just after the doorstep 100%
Strengthen weak spots in the floor 100%
Fill all cracks and edges 100%
Sand down the floor to make it even 100% Hopefully it's even enough now..
Apply coating 100%
Final touch 100% Ready to rumble!

Electricity & Lighting

Task Progress Comments
Evaluate the state of the current wiring 100% Existing in-wall wires should be cut off and forgotten about
Decide on technical solution wrt. circuits, fuses, earth leakage breaker etc. 100% We have 3 x 16A + a FI dedicated to the WEL already in place
Decide on light & power solution 100%
Aquire the necessary equipment (lamps, cables, channels, outlets, switches etc.) 100% (source for library/WEL lamps)
Build 100%
Final touch 100%

Further Phases

  • Make heavy machinery lab closable to limit dust -> done (new room)
  • More outlets in the remaining corners of the lab -> partially done
  • Permanent network cabling -> done
  • More (and orderly) shelving
  • Fixed and labeled positions for oszis, soldering stations, etc
  • Stairs to the big window (since Hvy Mchnry exit will be unusable for a while)