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=Project Moonbounce=
 
'''Radio Communication''' over a '''distance''' of at least '''2 Light Seconds''' using the Moon as reflector. Anyone interested in actually talking to him/herself? We can do that - you're welcome.
 
 
= Info deutsch =
 
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Project Moonbounce soll den Besuchern des [http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Chaos Communication Camp 2011] den Amateurfunk allgemein und eine seiner späktakulärsten Spielarten im Besonderen nahebringen. Erde-Mond-Erde (EME, Moonbounce) Funkverkehr direkt  auf dem Camp und für alle zu bestaunen. Das Camp ist, wie unsere Zielgruppe, höchst international und die Sprache größtenteils Englisch. Die Moonbounce Projektseite ist daher ebenfalls in englisch gehalten. Sollten trotzdem oder grade deswegen Fragen auftreten, einfach bei [[user:AndiS|OE4DNS]] anklopfen!
 
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'''Radio communication''' over a '''distance''' of at least '''2 light-seconds''' using the Moon as reflector.<br />Anyone interested in actually talking to him/herself? We can do that - you're welcome.
  
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= About Project Moonbounce =
 
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= About =
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Project Moonbounce's aim is to provide the visitors of [http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 2011's Chaos Communication Camp] some interesting insights into amateur radio in general and into one of its most spectacular varieties in particular. Earth-Moon-Earth (EME, Moonbounce) radio communication directly on the campsite and for everyone's amazement. Since the camp's language is mostly English due to the very international audience, this site is as well.
Project Moonbounce's aim is to provide the visitors of [http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 2011's Chaos Communication Camp] some interesting insights into Amateur Radion in general and into one of its most spectacular varieties in particular. Earth-Moon-Earth (EME, Moonbounce) radio communication directly on the campsite and for everyones amazement. Since the camp's language is mostly english due to the very international audience, this site is as well.
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Project Moonbounce is part of Metalab's [[CCCamp2011|Leiwandville 3.0]] and provided by the people of [[MetaFunk]] in cooperation with Amateur Radio operators from the CCC ([http://www.chaoswelle.de/ Chaoswelle]) and from all over the world!
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Project Moonbounce is part of Metalab's [[CCCamp2011|Leiwandville 3.0]] and provided by the people of [[MetaFunk]] in cooperation with amateur radio operators from the CCC ([http://www.chaoswelle.de/ Chaoswelle]) and from all over the world!
  
  
 
This site is used for organizational purposes. Pse add all infos/thoughts/help offers/donations and whatever you think might help us to reach our goal!
 
This site is used for organizational purposes. Pse add all infos/thoughts/help offers/donations and whatever you think might help us to reach our goal!
  
 
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= Facts =
=Facts=
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* We will work in the [[wen:2-meter_band|2m band]] (≈144MHz) using 2 long Yagi antennas and a high power amplifier.
* We will work in the 2m Band using 2 long Yagi Antennas and a high power amplifier.
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* Togehter with the Chaoswelle we will also be partaking in all other [http://www.chaoswelle.de/Camp2011 hamradio activities] on the camp.
* Togehter with the Chaoswelle we will also be partaking in all other [http://www.chaoswelle.de/Camp2011 Hamradio Activities] on the Camp.
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= Organization =
 
= Organization =
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** [[user:datacop|OE1RFC, Clemens]]
 
** [[user:datacop|OE1RFC, Clemens]]
 
** YOU!!
 
** YOU!!
 
  
 
== Setup ==
 
== Setup ==
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==Equipment==
 
==Equipment==
  
=== active Components (radios etc.) ===
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=== Active Components (radios etc.) ===
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{| border=1 cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse;"
 
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|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
! Part || Who || How || Transportation || Cost
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!width="27%"| Part
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!width="08%"| Who
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!width="25%"| How
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!width="15%"| Transportation
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!width="10%"| Cost [€]
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!width="15%"| Status
 
|-
 
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| Antennas / two long 2m (EME)-Yagis || OE1RFC, Clemens || buy used or new || tbd || 100 - 400 Euro
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| Antennas / two long 2m (EME)-Yagis || OE1RFC || buy used or new || tbd || 100 - 400 || ordered (OE4DNS)
 
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|-
 
|  Kuhne 2m EME LNA [http://www.kuhne-electronic.de/en/products/low-noise-amplifiers/mku-lna-144-a.html MKU LNA 144 A]
 
|  Kuhne 2m EME LNA [http://www.kuhne-electronic.de/en/products/low-noise-amplifiers/mku-lna-144-a.html MKU LNA 144 A]
| OE1RFC, Clemens || get new one || small piece || 224,00 Euro + heat sink
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| OE1RFC || get new one || small piece || 224,00 + heat sink || &#10003;
 
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| Transceiver || ?,? || IC7000 from OE1RFC at worst || tbd || ? Euro
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| Transceiver || ?,? || IC7000 from OE1RFC at worst || tbd || ? || &#10003;
 
|}
 
|}
  
=== passive Components (cables etc.) ===
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=== Passive Components (cables etc.) ===
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! Part || Who || How || Transportation || Cost
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!width="27%"| Part
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!width="08%"| Who
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!width="25%"| How
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!width="15%"| Transportation
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!width="10%"| Cost [€]
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!width="15%"| Status
 
|-
 
|-
| coaxial power splitter || ?,? || ? || tbd || ~60 Euro (Wimo)
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| coaxial power splitter || ?,? || ? || tbd || ~60 (Wimo) || ordered (OE4DNS)
 
|-
 
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| sequencer (e.g. arduino with homebrew 2-stage relay board) || you? || ? ||  || ? Euro
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| Kuhne SEQ2 sequencer || OE1RFC || ? ||  || - || &#10003;
 
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| coaxial relay, 2kW PEP, >70-80db isolation || ?,? || ? || tbd || ? Euro
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| coaxial relay, 2kW PEP, >70-80dB isolation || OE1RFC || ? || tbd || ? || ordered (OE1RFC)
 
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| coaxial relay PA/LNA switching for TRX || ?,? || ? || tbd || ? Euro (cheap)
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| coaxial relay PA/LNA switching for TRX || ?,? || ? || tbd || ? (cheap)
 
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| ??m Low Loss Coax + N connectors || ? || ? || ? || ? Euro
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| Low Loss Coax + N connectors || OE1RFC || ? || ? || - || &#10003;
 
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| High Power Dummyload || ?,? || ? || tbd || ? Euro
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| High Power Dummyload || ?,? || ? || tbd || ?
 
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| High Power SWR-Meter || ?,? || ? || tbd || ? Euro
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| High Power SWR-Meter || ?,? || ? || tbd || ?
 
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|}
  
=== mechanical Components ===
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=== Mechanical Components ===
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!width="27%"| Part
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!width="08%"| Who
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!width="25%"| How
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!width="15%"| Transportation
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!width="10%"| Cost [€]
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!width="15%"| Status
 
|-
 
|-
| vertical(4-6m?) / horizontal(~3.5m?) mast || OE4DNS, Andi || get at local store || - || ? Euro
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| vertical(4-6m?) / horizontal(~3.5m?) mast || OE4DNS, Andi || steel tubes exist || Since I don't transport the Phone cell, there is space for a mast. [[Benutzer:Zem|Zem]] || - || &#10003;
 
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| Erdanker || OE4DNS, Andi || existing || ? || -
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| Erdanker || OE4DNS || existing || ? || - || &#10003;
 
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|-
| steel cable || OE4DNS, Andi || existing || ? || -
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| steel cable || OE4DNS || existing || ? || - || &#10003;
 
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| azimuth/vertical rotator(s) || OE1RFC, Clemens || e.g. Yaesu G5500 or G500 + G-1000DXC || medium size || ? Euro
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| elevation rotator || OE1RFC || Kenpro KR-500 (similar to Yaesu G500) || medium size || 0 || &#10003;
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| azimuth rotator || OE3ATC || Hy-Gain ??? || medium size || 0 || &#10003;
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| Thrust bearing (Oberlager) + Rotator platform || OE1RFC || if we need one, depends on setup || small || ? || ordered (OE1RFC)
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Misc ===
 
=== Misc ===
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!width="08%"| Who
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!width="25%"| How
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!width="15%"| Transportation
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!width="10%"| Cost [€]
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!width="15%"| Status
 
|-
 
|-
| green lazzor (for rotator calibration) || ? || ? || ? || -
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| halogen spotlight for nightly repair work || 1 from OE1RFC, several from OE4DNS || we have it || we takes it || zero || &#10003;
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| crime scene tape ("Achtung Hochspannung") || ? || ? || ? || || TODO
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| green laser (for rotator calibration) || ? || ? || ? || -
 
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==Testing==
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== Testing ==
 
After collecting all equipment a testing setup will be created to check if all components are working, if nothing is missing and if we can improve our setup.
 
After collecting all equipment a testing setup will be created to check if all components are working, if nothing is missing and if we can improve our setup.
  
 
''[[user:datacop|Clemens]] suggests [[Stadtflucht4]] (roughly 1 month ahead and 2 weeks after [http://www.hamradio-friedrichshafen.de/ Ham Radio])''
 
''[[user:datacop|Clemens]] suggests [[Stadtflucht4]] (roughly 1 month ahead and 2 weeks after [http://www.hamradio-friedrichshafen.de/ Ham Radio])''
  
==Transportation==
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== Transportation ==
 
At least one truck and one big van with trailer.
 
At least one truck and one big van with trailer.
  
-> see [[CCCamp2011/Orga#Transport | ORGA Leiwandville 3.0]]
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-> see [[CCCamp2011/Orga#Transportation|ORGA Leiwandville 3.0]]
 
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==Deployment==
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== Deployment ==
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<pre>
 
                                                                                     _
 
                                                                                     _
      __\-o\-\-\-\-\   /.    \
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      __\-o\-\-\-\-\   /.    \
    /  / |    O  |
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      /  / |    O  |
    [LNA]-[R]--O  O   \ o_  /
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    [LNA]-[R]---O  #   \ o_  /
      |    |   \ /|    
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      |    |   \ /|    
      | | \-o-|\-\-\-\-\
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      | |   \-o-|\-\-\-\-\
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      | | |
  ___/ | |
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    | | |-
   ____ _____       / | |
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    | | ||
  | PC | | TRX |o-----[R]--[PA]----+ |
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    | | ||
  |____|-|_____|   ____/ \____
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    | | ||
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  ___/ | ||
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   ____ _____       / | |#
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  | PC | | TRX |o-----[R]--[PA]---+ |
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  |____|-|_____|   ____/ \____ (cc-by-sa oe1rfc, oe4dns)
  
=Working the Moon=
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</pre>
  
==Callsign==
 
There will be a special event callsign for the Camp that we can use. An alternative would be using home-callsigns with DL prefix.
 
  
==Software/Setup==
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= Working the Moon =
  
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== Call sign ==
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There will be a special event callsign for the camp that we can use. An alternative would be using home-call signs with DL prefix.
  
==Conds - Space-Weather/Moon constellation==
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== Software/Setup ==
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WSJT v7 using JT65B
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== Conds - Space-Weather/Moon constellation ==
 
* Moon is full which does not really matter but looks nice :-)
 
* Moon is full which does not really matter but looks nice :-)
 
* Earth-Moon distance: 395000 km - could be closer but we're not going to change that.
 
* Earth-Moon distance: 395000 km - could be closer but we're not going to change that.
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[[Kategorie:CCCamp2011|Moonbounce]]
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= How it worked =
[[Kategorie:Extern|Moonbounce]]
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We were very successful in producing a readeable signal that was heard from many stations on the northern hemisphere. Unfortunately and most likely due to heavy QRM at the campsite we were not able to complete a full two-way QSO. We did hear and decode some signals tough.
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There is a chat-log from the chris.org JT65 EME chat. Here is a [[Project_Moonbounce/EME_chat|Copy to read]].
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[[Kategorie:English|Moonbounce]]
 
[[Kategorie:English|Moonbounce]]
[[Kategorie:Projekte|Moonbounce]]
 
 
[[Kategorie:MetaFunk|Moonbounce]]
 
[[Kategorie:MetaFunk|Moonbounce]]
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[[Kategorie:Projekte|Moonbounce]]

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Radio communication over a distance of at least 2 light-seconds using the Moon as reflector.
Anyone interested in actually talking to him/herself? We can do that - you're welcome.

About Project Moonbounce

Project Moonbounce's aim is to provide the visitors of 2011's Chaos Communication Camp some interesting insights into amateur radio in general and into one of its most spectacular varieties in particular. Earth-Moon-Earth (EME, Moonbounce) radio communication directly on the campsite and for everyone's amazement. Since the camp's language is mostly English due to the very international audience, this site is as well.

Project Moonbounce is part of Metalab's Leiwandville 3.0 and provided by the people of MetaFunk in cooperation with amateur radio operators from the CCC (Chaoswelle) and from all over the world!


This site is used for organizational purposes. Pse add all infos/thoughts/help offers/donations and whatever you think might help us to reach our goal!

Facts

  • We will work in the 2m band (≈144MHz) using 2 long Yagi antennas and a high power amplifier.
  • Togehter with the Chaoswelle we will also be partaking in all other hamradio activities on the camp.

Organization

Setup

Equipment

Active Components (radios etc.)

Part Who How Transportation Cost [€] Status
Antennas / two long 2m (EME)-Yagis OE1RFC buy used or new tbd 100 - 400 ordered (OE4DNS)
Kuhne 2m EME LNA MKU LNA 144 A OE1RFC get new one small piece 224,00 + heat sink
Transceiver  ?,? IC7000 from OE1RFC at worst tbd  ?

Passive Components (cables etc.)

Part Who How Transportation Cost [€] Status
coaxial power splitter  ?,?  ? tbd ~60 (Wimo) ordered (OE4DNS)
Kuhne SEQ2 sequencer OE1RFC  ? -
coaxial relay, 2kW PEP, >70-80dB isolation OE1RFC  ? tbd  ? ordered (OE1RFC)
coaxial relay PA/LNA switching for TRX  ?,?  ? tbd  ? (cheap)
Low Loss Coax + N connectors OE1RFC  ?  ? -
High Power Dummyload  ?,?  ? tbd  ?
High Power SWR-Meter  ?,?  ? tbd  ?

Mechanical Components

Part Who How Transportation Cost [€] Status
vertical(4-6m?) / horizontal(~3.5m?) mast OE4DNS, Andi steel tubes exist Since I don't transport the Phone cell, there is space for a mast. Zem -
Erdanker OE4DNS existing  ? -
steel cable OE4DNS existing  ? -
elevation rotator OE1RFC Kenpro KR-500 (similar to Yaesu G500) medium size 0
azimuth rotator OE3ATC Hy-Gain ??? medium size 0
Thrust bearing (Oberlager) + Rotator platform OE1RFC if we need one, depends on setup small  ? ordered (OE1RFC)

Misc

Part Who How Transportation Cost [€] Status
halogen spotlight for nightly repair work 1 from OE1RFC, several from OE4DNS we have it we takes it zero
crime scene tape ("Achtung Hochspannung")  ?  ?  ? TODO
green laser (for rotator calibration)  ?  ?  ? -

Testing

After collecting all equipment a testing setup will be created to check if all components are working, if nothing is missing and if we can improve our setup.

Clemens suggests Stadtflucht4 (roughly 1 month ahead and 2 weeks after Ham Radio)

Transportation

At least one truck and one big van with trailer.

-> see ORGA Leiwandville 3.0

Deployment

                                                                                     _
 				       __\-o\-\-\-\-\				  /.    \
 				      /   /					 |    O  |
 			  [LNA]-[R]---O  #					  \ o_  /
 			    |    |    \ /|					  
 			    |	 |   \-o-|\-\-\-\-\				
 			    |	 |	 |		
 			    |	 |	|-		
 			    |	 |	||		
 			    |	 |	||		
 			    |	 |	||		
 			___/	 |	||		
  ____	 _____	      /		 |	|#	
 | PC | | TRX |o-----[R]--[PA]---+	|	
 |____|-|_____|			   ____/ \____			(cc-by-sa oe1rfc, oe4dns)


Working the Moon

Call sign

There will be a special event callsign for the camp that we can use. An alternative would be using home-call signs with DL prefix.

Software/Setup

WSJT v7 using JT65B

Conds - Space-Weather/Moon constellation

  • Moon is full which does not really matter but looks nice :-)
  • Earth-Moon distance: 395000 km - could be closer but we're not going to change that.
  • Path in the sky at Finowfurt...


How it worked

We were very successful in producing a readeable signal that was heard from many stations on the northern hemisphere. Unfortunately and most likely due to heavy QRM at the campsite we were not able to complete a full two-way QSO. We did hear and decode some signals tough.

There is a chat-log from the chris.org JT65 EME chat. Here is a Copy to read.